Greg King Interviewed by Socratrees (Darryl Cherney) – Country Activist, September 1987
Soctratrees’ Introduction: On September 1 at 9 pm I received a phone call from Greg King, who at the time was perched 130 feet in the air in a 1,000 year old redwood tree scheduled to be cut that week by the Maxxam held Pacific Lumber Co. Fifty feet away from his tree sat Jane Marie Cope, perched similarly in another redwood. This is a transcript of our conversation.
Socratrees: Greg King can you tell me where you are?
Greg King: Right now I’m sitting in a platform 130’ above the ground in a redwood tree with a view of timber harvest plan 11-87-427, the South Fork of the Eel River all the way to Eureka and to the ocean. The only blight is the clearcut of 20 years ago by another company, the clearcut to my left by Pacific Lumber, and the pulp mill on the horizon.
Socratrees: How long do you plan on staying up there?
GK: I plan on staying up here indefinitely. I want the Pacific Lumber Company to stop cutting its old growth and I’m going to stay up here as long as I can to bring that end to fruition.
Socratrees: Can you describe how you are stationed up there? What kind of accommodations do you have?
GK: I’ve got a 3’ x 6’ plywood platform hanging on a tree with tubular webbing and all kinds of paraphernalia hanging all around me. I’ve got my sleeping bag, my sleeping stuff, blankets and things, ropes hanging down, extra clothing, a lot of climbing equipment, a lot of different things, the banners and things; just everything is hanging all around me and this is what it’s like up in a tree.
Socratrees: Can you tell me about the woman in the tree next to you?
GK: Yes, Jane. Jane is doing fine. Her platform was having problems before but now it’s doing very well and she’s got a very splendid redwood tree about 50 feet away. We even have a rope between us so we can traverse back and forth. Hang out, if you will.
Socratrees: I understand Pacific Lumber has vowed to prosecute. Can you please tell me your feelings about that?
GK: I always expected them to prosecute, but what should happen is Pacific Lumber should be prosecuted for much heavier crimes then they will ever get us on—trespassing. The Pacific Lumber Company is breaking laws left and right clear-cutting its old growth. They need to be stopped and we need to point out there is a much higher law here being broken than a mere misdemeanor trespassing which I believe is a necessary act we are committing.
Socratrees: Did you try any administrative remedies before resorting to this extreme kind of action?
GK: Oh, I wrote comments on timber harvest plans, I talked with State Senator Barry Keene, I talked with Congress-man Doug Bosco, I went to review team meetings, I’ve covered issues for newspapers, I’ve done everything I could think of possible and tree-sitting is, of course, the last resort.
Socratrees: Really: May I ask you how the scenery is up there? How’s the weather?
GK: It’s quite beautiful tonight. The sunset was gorgeous orange and lots of different hues leading up to the dark sky. Right now the moon is coming across on the opposite ridge. The stars are out. The big dipper is right in front of me. Every-thing is wonderful here.
Socratrees: I understand you have some banners hanging down.
GK: Yes, we have some banners hanging down. One of them used to say “Free the Redwoods” but it was torn down today by a Pacific Lumber climber who came up and tore it down. He tried to get Jane’s banner also but she pulled it up just as he got to it. We have a surprise for them as far as banners go, though.
Socratrees: What did the banner say that she managed to rescue?
GK: I believe it says “HURWITZ OUT OF HUMBOLDT.”
Socratrees: I see. Just who is Charles Hurwitz?
GK: Charles Hurwitz is a Texas billionaire who took over the Pacific Lumber Company in order to liquidate its assets which is irreplaceable virgin redwood forest to add to his billions. He’s a deceitful, dishonest, untrustworthy, greedy type of man who I think should be locked up.
Socratrees: Last Monday night on CBS Evening News, Charles Hurwitz was quoted as saying to the workers of Scotia that they should know about the Golden Rule: “He who has the gold, rules.” Could you please comments on that?
GK: That’s a typical—that exemplifies the Hurwitz spirit, I would say. That must be a typical comment of his and I’m sure he lives by that.
Socratrees: Are there any plans for a lawsuit on this particular area (THP 1-87-427 HUM). Could you comment on that at this time?
GK: I heard there were plans for a lawsuit and I hope that they will be followed through. I do not know the status of that at this point.
Socratrees: Do you have any last comments to make?
GK: Just that I hope that everybody from everywhere comes here to these forests or at least to Pacific Lumber’s logging roads—blockades them, sits in trees, demonstrates, raps on the desks of CDF (California Dept. of Forestry) and State Board of Forestry officers and brings a halt to this brutal destruction. We really need all the support we can get right now.
Socratrees: Okay, Mr. King. We appreciate talking to you and thank you very much for your time.